you're a healthcare expert. you worked on this, and you're part of the outside groups that got the law passed in the first place. is it true that my god obama care is started, and we have to cut benefits. >> sarita is not buying it, and she shouldn't be. it's totally baloney. you have more than 150 employees, you have a shared responsibility for those employees to go out on the exchange to buy insurance on their own. an it doesn't kick in until until 2014. >> cenk: that's huge. it hasn't even started. >> the fact that they're saying they have to cut people down to part time due to expenses of the affordable care act is ridiculous. >> cenk: are they doing this because they didn't want to pay for healthcare in the first place? >> i think sarita is right. there is an employment incentive to cut back hours keep wages low and there is a larger influence at play here that has nothing to do with the affordable care act. no one is finding out that this doesn't start until 2014. it's absurd. >> cenk: these poor companies